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	<title>Comments on: Do rule changes ruin Olympiad spirit?</title>
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		<title>By: McGelligot</title>
		<link>http://www.thechessdrum.net/blog/2008/12/18/do-rule-changes-ruin-olympiad-spirit/comment-page-1/#comment-14941</link>
		<dc:creator>McGelligot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 03:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course there are &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.conservativebookstore.com/chess&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;basic chess rules&lt;/a&gt; that cannot be changed. But there are also standard practices that are unwise to mess with. This happens to be one of them. If a player does not show up, their time should simply ebb away. Yes, it could make for a boring game, but it also gives a bit of leeway to a late player. It also punishes lateness appropriately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course there are <a href="http://www.conservativebookstore.com/chess" rel="nofollow">basic chess rules</a> that cannot be changed. But there are also standard practices that are unwise to mess with. This happens to be one of them. If a player does not show up, their time should simply ebb away. Yes, it could make for a boring game, but it also gives a bit of leeway to a late player. It also punishes lateness appropriately.</p>
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		<title>By: Lars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 21:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fide has los it&#039;s reality sense....no need to comment on such a crappy rule change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fide has los it&#8217;s reality sense&#8230;.no need to comment on such a crappy rule change.</p>
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		<title>By: Daaim Shabazz</title>
		<link>http://www.thechessdrum.net/blog/2008/12/18/do-rule-changes-ruin-olympiad-spirit/comment-page-1/#comment-11866</link>
		<dc:creator>Daaim Shabazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 04:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t interview him, but I interviewed his teammate. In his halting English, he didn&#039;t mention specifics. However, I would imagine &lt;strong&gt;Jean-Pierre Moulain&lt;/strong&gt; of Gabon may have thought he had enough time and underestimated the huge crush of people he had to knife through. He had been at the board the previous ten rounds. I read a blog and someone reported seeing a Nigerian sprinting to his board to beat the clock... he didn&#039;t make it.

Malawi, who forfeited in the last round, was one of the teams staying about an 40-60 minutes away. Malawi delegate told me that his team was forfeited because they arrived late. What he didn&#039;t tell me was that their tram had broken down. The arbiters didn&#039;t accept the argument. These are very young federations and it is doubtful that they will have good memories of their first Olympiads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t interview him, but I interviewed his teammate. In his halting English, he didn&#8217;t mention specifics. However, I would imagine <strong>Jean-Pierre Moulain</strong> of Gabon may have thought he had enough time and underestimated the huge crush of people he had to knife through. He had been at the board the previous ten rounds. I read a blog and someone reported seeing a Nigerian sprinting to his board to beat the clock&#8230; he didn&#8217;t make it.</p>
<p>Malawi, who forfeited in the last round, was one of the teams staying about an 40-60 minutes away. Malawi delegate told me that his team was forfeited because they arrived late. What he didn&#8217;t tell me was that their tram had broken down. The arbiters didn&#8217;t accept the argument. These are very young federations and it is doubtful that they will have good memories of their first Olympiads.</p>
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		<title>By: RJT</title>
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		<dc:creator>RJT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jean-Pierre&#039;s situation causes more sadness than outrage .. he was there on time, ready to play. Why didn&#039;t he just postpone the trip to the restroom for a few minutes ?? 

Regarding the zero grace period, remember, I said that it should be part of a well thought out plan. So I&#039;ll agree that it was a bad idea if it was sprung as a surprise on the participants, and due consideration was not given to the difficult travel logistics in Dresden. Perhaps a team warning could have been given for the first offense, and forfeiture only on any subsequent infractions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jean-Pierre&#8217;s situation causes more sadness than outrage .. he was there on time, ready to play. Why didn&#8217;t he just postpone the trip to the restroom for a few minutes ?? </p>
<p>Regarding the zero grace period, remember, I said that it should be part of a well thought out plan. So I&#8217;ll agree that it was a bad idea if it was sprung as a surprise on the participants, and due consideration was not given to the difficult travel logistics in Dresden. Perhaps a team warning could have been given for the first offense, and forfeiture only on any subsequent infractions.</p>
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		<title>By: Daaim Shabazz</title>
		<link>http://www.thechessdrum.net/blog/2008/12/18/do-rule-changes-ruin-olympiad-spirit/comment-page-1/#comment-11849</link>
		<dc:creator>Daaim Shabazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 05:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Teimour Radjabov&lt;/strong&gt; made some very interesting comments about rule changes and Olympiad tournaments.

http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=5105</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Teimour Radjabov</strong> made some very interesting comments about rule changes and Olympiad tournaments.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=5105" rel="nofollow">http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=5105</a></p>
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		<title>By: Daaim Shabazz</title>
		<link>http://www.thechessdrum.net/blog/2008/12/18/do-rule-changes-ruin-olympiad-spirit/comment-page-1/#comment-11844</link>
		<dc:creator>Daaim Shabazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I talked with &lt;strong&gt;Albert Vasse&lt;/strong&gt; of DGT (maker of the interactive boards) at the Olympiad. He showed me a clock that produces the 960 positions of Fischer Random. Yep... we are only playing one starting position of chess. Maybe that will prevent it from being solved. 

However, I think they&#039;d better make some changes to the Olympiad. I just talked to a high-ranking FIDE official. He told me when he inspected the site in Dresden, he told the site managers that people would have trouble seeing the lower boards. They responded (paraphrase), &quot;Who wants to see them anyway!?&quot; 

We have lots of elitism in chess and some of these rules are indicative of this. Actually &lt;strong&gt;Kirsan Ilyumzhinov&lt;/strong&gt; stated in his address at the General Assembley that he is trying to appeal to the International Olympiad Committee and international sponsors. Is the Olympiad the place to do it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I talked with <strong>Albert Vasse</strong> of DGT (maker of the interactive boards) at the Olympiad. He showed me a clock that produces the 960 positions of Fischer Random. Yep&#8230; we are only playing one starting position of chess. Maybe that will prevent it from being solved. </p>
<p>However, I think they&#8217;d better make some changes to the Olympiad. I just talked to a high-ranking FIDE official. He told me when he inspected the site in Dresden, he told the site managers that people would have trouble seeing the lower boards. They responded (paraphrase), &#8220;Who wants to see them anyway!?&#8221; </p>
<p>We have lots of elitism in chess and some of these rules are indicative of this. Actually <strong>Kirsan Ilyumzhinov</strong> stated in his address at the General Assembley that he is trying to appeal to the International Olympiad Committee and international sponsors. Is the Olympiad the place to do it?</p>
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		<title>By: Darren Porter a.k.a The Truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren Porter a.k.a The Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only positive changes that have been happening in past 2 or 3 months are to do with an improved Chess Drum look .Well done Daaim,the site is excellently maintained.

With computers around the future of Chess is threatened,it will not be suprising if the game is played out soon i.e solved .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only positive changes that have been happening in past 2 or 3 months are to do with an improved Chess Drum look .Well done Daaim,the site is excellently maintained.</p>
<p>With computers around the future of Chess is threatened,it will not be suprising if the game is played out soon i.e solved .</p>
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		<title>By: Daaim Shabazz</title>
		<link>http://www.thechessdrum.net/blog/2008/12/18/do-rule-changes-ruin-olympiad-spirit/comment-page-1/#comment-11807</link>
		<dc:creator>Daaim Shabazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;d be rich, but we&#039;d still be right! ;-) Chess is very different. 

I&#039;m more concerned about using such a rule at the Olympiad, a tournament with so many logistical challenges. You were in Turin, so you know. Unlike Turin, teams were spread out all over Dresden... some as far as an hour tram ride away. There was no Olympiad village where players were a 10-minute walk from the venue.

The issue is how this thing was thrown into the Olympiad which is a festive and celebratory tournament. Why didn&#039;t they choose Corus, Dortmund, Linares or a top tournament? Simply put... they were chicken. Will this new rule help sponsorship or hurt? This rule may bring more risk than reward. Think about a top player forfeiting with major sponsors watching.  Some players even used the late arrival as a stage (Kasparov) while others are just chronically late. Let&#039;s see if they are serious about this when top tournaments come around next season.

Maybe some type of gradualism or middle ground. A player survey at the Olympiad showed a favortism toward the 15-minute grace. However, the issue remains... lateness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;d be rich, but we&#8217;d still be right! <img src='http://www.thechessdrum.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Chess is very different. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m more concerned about using such a rule at the Olympiad, a tournament with so many logistical challenges. You were in Turin, so you know. Unlike Turin, teams were spread out all over Dresden&#8230; some as far as an hour tram ride away. There was no Olympiad village where players were a 10-minute walk from the venue.</p>
<p>The issue is how this thing was thrown into the Olympiad which is a festive and celebratory tournament. Why didn&#8217;t they choose Corus, Dortmund, Linares or a top tournament? Simply put&#8230; they were chicken. Will this new rule help sponsorship or hurt? This rule may bring more risk than reward. Think about a top player forfeiting with major sponsors watching.  Some players even used the late arrival as a stage (Kasparov) while others are just chronically late. Let&#8217;s see if they are serious about this when top tournaments come around next season.</p>
<p>Maybe some type of gradualism or middle ground. A player survey at the Olympiad showed a favortism toward the 15-minute grace. However, the issue remains&#8230; lateness.</p>
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		<title>By: RJT</title>
		<link>http://www.thechessdrum.net/blog/2008/12/18/do-rule-changes-ruin-olympiad-spirit/comment-page-1/#comment-11806</link>
		<dc:creator>RJT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daaim - I wish I had a dollar for every time someone explained away an idiosyncrasy of chess with a phrase similar to your &quot;..but let’s us realize that chess is different from other sports.&quot;  :)

We can reliably trace the evolution of chess back at least 14 centuries. And during that time there have been many changes. Some trivial (2 color squares), some monumental (expanding the moves of the Queen, Bishop and Pawn). There is nothing sacred about the 1 hour grace period that players have for being present at the start of the game. If eliminating the grace period is part of a well thought out plan to improve the staging of tournaments, then we should do it and not cling to customs that may have long ago lost their relevance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daaim &#8211; I wish I had a dollar for every time someone explained away an idiosyncrasy of chess with a phrase similar to your &#8220;..but let’s us realize that chess is different from other sports.&#8221;  <img src='http://www.thechessdrum.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>We can reliably trace the evolution of chess back at least 14 centuries. And during that time there have been many changes. Some trivial (2 color squares), some monumental (expanding the moves of the Queen, Bishop and Pawn). There is nothing sacred about the 1 hour grace period that players have for being present at the start of the game. If eliminating the grace period is part of a well thought out plan to improve the staging of tournaments, then we should do it and not cling to customs that may have long ago lost their relevance.</p>
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		<title>By: Daaim Shabazz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daaim Shabazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 04:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with it in some respect, but let&#039;s us realize that chess is different from other sports. In chess, you can start the clock before something happens. In most sports, it&#039;s the reverse, so you need everybody present. Starting the clock and losing time in 40/90 is quite a penalty. Malawi got on a tram that broke down and was forfeited despite the story being verified.  This decision was not well-conceived or thought-out and there were many inconsistencies in the rulings. Losing fans... imagine if in a Championship match is decided because a player is seconds late for the last game. Chess will never get another sponsor... ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with it in some respect, but let&#8217;s us realize that chess is different from other sports. In chess, you can start the clock before something happens. In most sports, it&#8217;s the reverse, so you need everybody present. Starting the clock and losing time in 40/90 is quite a penalty. Malawi got on a tram that broke down and was forfeited despite the story being verified.  This decision was not well-conceived or thought-out and there were many inconsistencies in the rulings. Losing fans&#8230; imagine if in a Championship match is decided because a player is seconds late for the last game. Chess will never get another sponsor&#8230; ever.</p>
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