Comments on: Ron “Suki” still the real Checker King http://www.thechessdrum.net/blog/2008/10/17/ron-suki-the-real-checker-king/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:00:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Daaim Shabazz http://www.thechessdrum.net/blog/2008/10/17/ron-suki-the-real-checker-king/comment-page-1/#comment-12549 Daaim Shabazz Sun, 29 Mar 2009 12:41:58 +0000 http://www.thechessdrum.net/blog/2008/10/17/ron-suki-still-the-real-checker-king/#comment-12549 You're correct... it was a typo. You can see in post #2 that the names are correct. In terms of the simultaneous exhibition, you have to be mistakenly referring to another event. More convincingly, Dr. Tinsley was already dead (1995) when Suki set the record in 1998. <em><strong>Sources: </strong><a href="http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=h0&oq=the%20beautiful%20truth&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GZAZ_enUS253US253&q=suki+king+385" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=h0&oq=the%20beautiful%20truth&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GZAZ_enUS253US253&q=suki+king+385</a></em> Anyway, that would be poor etiquette... at least it is in chess. If Tinsley even agreed to play King in a simul while living, I would have less respect for the sport that I orginally did. That would be poor sportsmanship on Tinsley's part and not befitting of the champion he was. In chess, Grandmasters do play other Grandmasters in clock simuls (and win), but certainly a World Champion would not play another World Champion in a simul. <em><strong>Note:</strong> Dr. Tinsley taught here in Tallahassee where I am a professor. He taught mathematics both at Florida State and Florida A&M.</em> You’re correct… it was a typo. You can see in post #2 that the names are correct. In terms of the simultaneous exhibition, you have to be mistakenly referring to another event. More convincingly, Dr. Tinsley was already dead (1995) when Suki set the record in 1998.

Sources: http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=h0&oq=the%20beautiful%20truth&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GZAZ_enUS253US253&q=suki+king+385

Anyway, that would be poor etiquette… at least it is in chess. If Tinsley even agreed to play King in a simul while living, I would have less respect for the sport that I orginally did. That would be poor sportsmanship on Tinsley’s part and not befitting of the champion he was.

In chess, Grandmasters do play other Grandmasters in clock simuls (and win), but certainly a World Champion would not play another World Champion in a simul.

Note: Dr. Tinsley taught here in Tallahassee where I am a professor. He taught mathematics both at Florida State and Florida A&M.

]]> By: Ingo Zachos http://www.thechessdrum.net/blog/2008/10/17/ron-suki-the-real-checker-king/comment-page-1/#comment-12547 Ingo Zachos Sun, 29 Mar 2009 02:24:27 +0000 http://www.thechessdrum.net/blog/2008/10/17/ron-suki-still-the-real-checker-king/#comment-12547 Actually, the Chinook team only claims to have proved that Checkers, if played without restriction (where Ron is World Champion) is a draw. That is no surprise and is known without a prove for over a century. There is a grave errer in the article, as not Alexey Georgiev won the gold medal for the USA, but Alexander Moiseyev. Georgiev still lives in Russia and plays draughts 100 and brazillian draugts as well as shashki very well, but he never played checkers seriously so far. And actually he did lose a game when breaking the simulantous records to a player that was even greater then him. It was the legendary Marion Tinsley that Ron accepted as a challenger and he lost. Would Anand accept to play agaimst Kasparow in a simultaneous event? Actually, the Chinook team only claims to have proved that Checkers, if played without restriction (where Ron is World Champion) is a draw.
That is no surprise and is known without a prove for over a century.
There is a grave errer in the article, as not Alexey Georgiev won the gold medal for the USA, but Alexander Moiseyev.
Georgiev still lives in Russia and plays draughts 100 and brazillian draugts as well as shashki very well, but he never played checkers seriously so far.
And actually he did lose a game when breaking the simulantous records to a player that was even greater then him. It was the legendary Marion Tinsley that Ron accepted as a challenger and he lost.
Would Anand accept to play agaimst Kasparow in a simultaneous event?

]]> By: Daaim Shabazz http://www.thechessdrum.net/blog/2008/10/17/ron-suki-the-real-checker-king/comment-page-1/#comment-10086 Daaim Shabazz Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:27:10 +0000 http://www.thechessdrum.net/blog/2008/10/17/ron-suki-still-the-real-checker-king/#comment-10086 Well Darren. It appears that from the amount of draws, humans have practically solved it. In this version, they do not jump backwards, nor can the king capture unless it is on the next diagonal square. I was going through the game and I didn't understand the strategy until I figured it out. I have posted this video elsewhere, but I must show the brilliance of former World Champion, <strong>Baba Sy </strong>of Senegal. Both <strong>Ron "Suki" King</strong> and Baba Sy deserve recognition for being trailblazers in their sports. Below is a video of Baba Sy. There needs to be a documentary on Ron "Suki" King. <center><object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/3R1o8V-vbF8&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/3R1o8V-vbF8&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object></center> Well Darren. It appears that from the amount of draws, humans have practically solved it. In this version, they do not jump backwards, nor can the king capture unless it is on the next diagonal square. I was going through the game and I didn’t understand the strategy until I figured it out. I have posted this video elsewhere, but I must show the brilliance of former World Champion, Baba Sy of Senegal.

Both Ron “Suki” King and Baba Sy deserve recognition for being trailblazers in their sports. Below is a video of Baba Sy. There needs to be a documentary on Ron “Suki” King.

]]> By: Darren Porter http://www.thechessdrum.net/blog/2008/10/17/ron-suki-the-real-checker-king/comment-page-1/#comment-10083 Darren Porter Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:55:03 +0000 http://www.thechessdrum.net/blog/2008/10/17/ron-suki-still-the-real-checker-king/#comment-10083 Isn't this the version that was recently played out to a draw by the computer??i fear Chess might be heading same way ,especially in Petroff Defence. Isn’t this the version that was recently played out to a draw by the computer??i fear Chess might be heading same way ,especially in Petroff Defence.

]]> By: Daaim Shabazz http://www.thechessdrum.net/blog/2008/10/17/ron-suki-the-real-checker-king/comment-page-1/#comment-10076 Daaim Shabazz Tue, 28 Oct 2008 03:31:23 +0000 http://www.thechessdrum.net/blog/2008/10/17/ron-suki-still-the-real-checker-king/#comment-10076 Darren, Here is a game archive with java boards. Lots of draws! http://usacheckers.com/show_game_start.php?event=2005wtm Darren,

Here is a game archive with java boards. Lots of draws!

http://usacheckers.com/show_game_start.php?event=2005wtm

]]> By: Daaim Shabazz http://www.thechessdrum.net/blog/2008/10/17/ron-suki-the-real-checker-king/comment-page-1/#comment-10075 Daaim Shabazz Tue, 28 Oct 2008 03:19:52 +0000 http://www.thechessdrum.net/blog/2008/10/17/ron-suki-still-the-real-checker-king/#comment-10075 To show how strong <strong>Ron "Suki" King</strong> is... here is a February 2008 ratings below. He was #2 behind <strong>Alex Moiseyev</strong> at 2656. Moiseyev leads the American Chess Federation rating list at 2713. Both are elite Grandmasters. http://www.usacheckers.com/acfratings.php Fittingly so, Moiseyev won the gold and King the silver at the recent 1st World Mind Sports Games. Their international ratings are 2544 and 2569 respectively. See link below. http://toernooibase.kndb.nl/opvraag/standen.php?taal=&kl=23&Id=1084&jr=9&afko=23&r= To show how strong Ron “Suki” King is… here is a February 2008 ratings below. He was #2 behind Alex Moiseyev at 2656. Moiseyev leads the American Chess Federation rating list at 2713. Both are elite Grandmasters.

http://www.usacheckers.com/acfratings.php

Fittingly so, Moiseyev won the gold and King the silver at the recent 1st World Mind Sports Games. Their international ratings are 2544 and 2569 respectively. See link below.

http://toernooibase.kndb.nl/opvraag/standen.php?taal=&kl=23&Id=1084&jr=9&afko=23&r=

]]> By: Darren Porter http://www.thechessdrum.net/blog/2008/10/17/ron-suki-the-real-checker-king/comment-page-1/#comment-10065 Darren Porter Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:56:40 +0000 http://www.thechessdrum.net/blog/2008/10/17/ron-suki-still-the-real-checker-king/#comment-10065 Anyone with this gentlemen's games?? Anyone with this gentlemen’s games??

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